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If I were music'in again

A conversation a few rants ago with Gabe (aka Microwaved) got me to thinkin about all the things I'd do differently if I were to start a band now. Some you may or may not be aware but I spent the better part of 8 years playing pretty much solid with The Outside and Inner-kube (along with various projects here and there). While the latter definitely had as good a run as one could expect playing left-of-center industrial-electronic-rock in Iowa, I definitely left that scene for Chicago thoroughly burnt out on the whole experience. Not to say it was bad, but well, anybody who is at it for that long knows that the constant strain of holding a band together and all the work that goes along with making it go is a HUGE pain in the ass.

In no particular order:

-Focus less on playing live and more on writing - We definitely put the bulk of our energy into getting out and playing. There's two sides of the coin with playing live. First, unless you are a large enough band to warrant a packed room everywhere you play and can afford a decent crew, gigs are usually fair to all out shit. More often then not, I left a club after striking the gear tired and on the verge of losing the will to live (only to know i have three more shows until I don't have to repeat this act). But on the other hand, a good show is a VERY fucking good thing. There's no drug/booze/sex that can compare to the high you get from that. It's the whole reason you put on with the first thing. If I could go out and do 5 shows, if 1 of them slammed, it made the other shitty 4 worth it. But this was also pre itunes, pre myspace and in the days when mp3.com took an amazing concept and fucked it all up by monetizing the soul out of it. So playing live was also your primary method for building an audience. It seems like this is less and less relevant with the whole web 2.0 thing actually starting to congeal.

-Only employ the services of a band when absolutely necessary - In Chicago, I've noticed its much more common for musicians to simply hire a backing band when needed. I know one hired gun drummer that supposedly draws a six figure salary simply jamming with a new band every night. Granted, this guy is the ONE drummer that can sight read music and play anything after hearing it once (meaning you can hire him at noon and he can do a 2 hour set by 8)...nevertheless, the drama, bullshit and overall pain in the ass of aligning 4-5 people with the same vision isn't ALL that necessary. Besides, I trust my programming ability enough to make a computer play whatever I can't physically do myself (aka drums).

-Monetize my output - Maybe I'm totally wrong about this (and I'm sure I am), but it seems like there are way more ways to monetize your music now than there were 5-10 years ago. Video games have come a LONG way, independant films always need music and the efficiency of the internet has gotten to where getting music to these people doesn't seem like it means you need to have a middleman. It probably helps, but like my guitar teacher used to say, you don't need to join the boyscouts to go camping. Ultimately I can't see myself ever making music to please anybody but myself, but having an end goal of "getting it out there" is essential to actually seeing something to fruition for me.

-Concentrate on creating as much output as possible - Assuming shows aren't really necessary, that would theoretically free up a lot more time to write more shit. And the laws of supply and demand would state that the more shit you have to monetize (see previous point), the more likely you are to "get it out there". I happen to have a very wide taste in music and enjoy playing as much. It wouldn't be unrealistic to drop a metal/industrial collection of songs and a country/rockabilly collection within a month.

-No physical output - This was a huge expenditure then and its a huge expenditure now. Only now you don't even need it to get it out there. It used to be that you pretty much had to have a CD in order to be taken at all seriously. And even then it was a crapshoot.

-No merchandise - If you like my music that's awesome. But I'm not here to fill your wardrobe.

I guess I pretty much described what all my friends that do this professionally (as in don't have day jobs and aren't homeless) are doing on a daily basis. Nevertheless, that suits me. If there's one thing I learned from all those years of riding in vans, playing in shit bars, and ruining my hearing...its that if you really want to 'make it' you need to define what 'making it' is to you (not to your parents, your girlfriend or whoever the fuck thinks they know what's best for you). Once you define this, you need to identify what is getting in the way of that goal and streamline your life. I think for me that would have meant realizing that college in Iowa with the idea of "if this doesn't work, I'll fallback to this" isn't going to work. Man..to think i could have come to Chicago in the heyday (well on the tail end) of the wax trax era if I played my cards right. Don't get me wrong i'm not complaining about or regretting the relatively good life I have now (traded my axe for a roadbike)...but that's the way it goes.

Comments (7)

Good post. One thing though... if it doesn't cost money to store your merch then I think it can be your best form of revenue. Plus you're building equity in your name. I know that not a lot of people buy or wear these these shirts and buttons... but it is just one more avenue to exploit and has a relatively low cost with an easy turn around.

I also don't think that selling CDs at shows is totally dead either. You need to give them something physical to give home. Otherwise they'll take that web address and totally forget to look you up the next morning.

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Dave, it's funny that you're thinking about all of this because I've been doing the same. I've been thinking about all the time and energy I put into making music, touring, booking acts and keeping a band together and all that and finding where my priorities lie with the new family and all of that. I guess you could call it soul searching. Chuck Hoffman and I have been chatting back and forth about putting something together. A kind of Godflesh meets Jesus and Mary Chain with a little Love & Rockets mesh and I'm really excited to do something but I worry about all the time that something needs to be successful on any level and how much time I need at home. Life can totally mess with you. In hindsight, while I love my wife and family and wouldn't change a thing in my life, I do have some regret for not working a little harder back in the day to make it work. Also I could have had a better attitude towards other people as well. The one thing that always pisses me off when I think back is the ellitist attitude that so many musicians carry around with them. It's part of the solution to being on stage and having an ego like that but it's not good for business or networking.

Dave McAnally:

On the CD's--its not so much that I don't think there's room for 'em, its just that there's not enough room/need for 'em to motivate me to pay to press 'em then schlepp 'em around from gig to gig ;-)

I suppose the same goes for merch. God that's a pain in the ass. And any band that's done any amount of touring (as in go out and play shows without coming back home between each one) has left at least one bin full of shirts or hats @ a club @ least once.

I guess what I was thinking about with music now is that I can pretty much create anything and think to myself "Damn that was cool" without having to bring anybody else in the room. Playing live is cool (although its weird to think I haven't actually been on a stage in almost 3 years) but as I mentioned, the bullshit that goes along with it (not to mention the elistic attitude you mentioned that I think I put up with on a nightly basis from somebody or other) definitely got to me.

Now that you mention that elitist thing, I do find it funny how varied those attitudes were. Some of the most successful people I've played with/encountered that could easily cop an elitist attitude and not look _all_ that out of place are actually the most humble down to earth individuals who geniunely make you feel like they appreciate you. Jim Marcus/Van Christie, the guys in NIL8, Chris Randall (depending on what day and what subject), Sandy from 3rd Street Live, Cory Ford, Scott Steele, Cody from Reverb, Sherm, Corey Taylor and Jim Root come to mind. Whereas other people who have had fair to meddling success on whatever level I met them, and are essentially the most pretentious snobby assholes who seem like they'd rather get whacked with a 2x4 then acknowledge or appreciate you. And since its my website and I don't really give a shit if I hurt their feelings, I'll go ahead and say all of Pomeroy (except the keyboardist), all of On a Pale Horse, those ass-clowns in Facecage, Doug Roberson from Gabes, Hilly from the Pimps (the rest are cool), that dude that owns House of Bricks and his cokehead resident soundguy, anybody who worked @ the Creepy Crawl in St. Louis from 2000-2003 all fit squarely into that realm.

mike f.:

I hope I'm not in that 'eliteist' attitude catagory. I was just grateful to trek around with you guys 'cause 1)it beat the hell out of sitting at home in CF. 2)I genuinely enjoyed any part of that scene(for lack of a better term)I could get my hands on,no matter how small it was. And 3)you guys were pretty cool, sans Jeremy ;).


It would be sweet to be doing something like that again.

Dave McAnally:

I think its safe to say anybody I spent any time around wasn't in that category. :-)

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